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Poster: stratocaster Date: May 9, 2013 1:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Was Barton Hall the most influential show?

prior to the release of the Betty Boards of this show in 1987, the most influential show was probably 02-27-1969 due to the Dark Star on LiveDead...

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 9, 2013 6:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Was Barton Hall the most influential show?

Since Barton on the Betty Board didn't come out until 1987, by definition it could NOT have been most influential -- except in cementing/helping to create a new generation of Deadheads. So perhaps it was part of the Touchhead phenomenon and an aspect of the latter-day hugeness. It helped to create a kind of shining beacon of what you might possibly hear or what the band could be/had been.

I think the existence of so many good tapes -- the iconic wall of tapes at the experienced Deadhead's place that Little Sense mentioned -- was more influential than any particular show, other than the ones used on Live Dead, Anthem and E72. It showed there was "something there," and they promised a kind of living-room parallel of going to shows: part of the mystique was that the band was sometimes terrible, so the hiss could be tolerated (like the bad moments at shows), but if you put in a lot of time and wade through the dross you could find the Perfect Moments.

And you really couldn't just fast-forward around. Now we can select any given moment digitally, down to the second, but that would just wreck a tape. There was something about the imperfection of those tapes that was part of it -- you did have to tough out some crud for the good stuff. And I'm sure anyone who wasn't into the Dead just HATED those crackling, hissy versions of Jerry warbling from their tape player in the dorm room down the hall ... I bet that added to the anti-mystique, too!




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Poster: William Tell Date: May 9, 2013 9:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Was Barton Hall the most influential show?

Besides, if I've never heard it, how important can it be???

;)

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 9, 2013 9:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Was Barton Hall the most influential show?

Well of course. That goes without saying.

Seriously, you've never heard it?

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 10, 2013 6:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Was Barton Hall the most influential show?

No...seriously. It defn wasn't on the radar in the Bay Area prior to 82 when I "quit," & then, when I returned, 05, I wasn't interested...in the 2000s, I heard people sayin or asking me "is the summer 72 or May 77 the all time best?" & wondered "WTF? how do/did we fig that out?!?"

Think about all the great tunes, & how they cluster on those early albums, & then think about the new tunes that in the late 70s competed for concert time...no brainer fur me on that overly simplistic basis alone...

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: May 9, 2013 3:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Was Barton Hall the most influential show?

I had a excellent SBD copy of this long before 1987. I enjoyed it but Harpur College was my tape nirvana. It's a Man's World...I am very happy that in my Dead infancy I was shown the ropes and given tapes by some old time Heads. People who saw shows in the 60's and said that Pig was the MAN! But they were not the type that had stopped seeing shows, quite the opposite, they were still totally into it! And they had lots of extremely great tapes - a whole wall full. This was in 1982. I was 20 they were 40. I am forever grateful to them for steering me in the right direction w/o the arrogance of the "you missed it all". Thank you Jack where ever you are! Because of you my favorite music spans at least 20 years.

Actually no tape influenced me in my Deadheadedness...it was seeing them perform live that was all and everything.

listening to tapes is like smoking a choice doob.

seeing a show was like eating 500mcg.